Hey, friends, welcome back to The Covenant Eyes Podcast. We're so glad to have you join us. We've got a really good episode today. If you're a parent or a grandparent, maybe a ministry leader. This episode is definitely for you. We are going to be talking to an author who has a book that is really wonderful, and I am going to strongly encourage each and every one of you to get your hands on this book and share it in your parent groups or in small groups, because it really offers some really practical advice for parents and for grandparents, and for anyone that's working with the next generation of kids. We are just so excited to have Lee Ann Mancini joining us today. And she is the founder of Raising Christian Kids Incorporated. She's the host of a podcast with the same name, and this organization offers a ton of great resources and tips from experts. Video series that everyone can take a look at. Her mission is to equip and empower ministry leaders, parents, grandparents, teachers, anybody that's working with the next generation to have a strong foundation in Jesus. So this is going to be a great conversation. She is also an award winning Christian author and executive producer of an animated series called Sea Kids. This is really cool. We'll have to dive into that a little bit as well. Lee Ann. This is all found on Answers TV or Pure Flix. You can also find it on Right Now Media, which a lot of us have access to through our churches. So that's a great tool. And then also at Sea Kids TV, so that's exciting. She's an adjunct professor at South Florida Bible College and Theological Seminary. She holds various board positions with the South Florida Bible College and Theological Seminary. Watermark Gospel, and Spark Media Ventures. She maintains a membership with the Advanced Writers and Speakers Association. She's married, has two children, and loves to read jog, and teach the Word of God. So welcome, Lee Ann, for joining us for this great conversation today. Oh, thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here. Well, let's dive into a little bit of what inspired you to write this book. In the book here I have it with me. It is fantastic. It's called Raising Kids to follow Christ. So talk to us how you got the inspiration to write this book. Well, about five years ago, I was listening, to what people were talking about. We got in our children walking away from their faith and reading the statistics. And about five years ago, it was 45% of middle schoolers and high schoolers were walking away from their faith. And that's that's alarming. I'm thinking to myself, that's half a generation. And these are Christian children from Christian homes. And so I started researching why this was happening. And, you know, what we could do. And I was finding all this great information, and I felt the Lord calling me to write a book that helps parents, grandparents, ministry leaders to raise their children from the womb to age seven, to build that foundation. And then from age 8 to 13, to build upon that solid foundation. So our kids will have strong faith that will last their lifetime against this, anti-Christian, humanistic culture that we're facing. And so I read over 250 parenting books. Wow. And did a lot of research. On my own and plus my biblical knowledge of God's word. And I just prayed everyday for the Holy Spirit to give me wisdom and discernment to write every page I wrote, every word I wrote. And now I fast forward. And it's alarming because 70% of children between the ages of 13 and 14, they don't believe Satan exists. Now these are kids from Christian homes. 70% 84% don't believe were born into sin and need a savior, and 90% don't believe in absolute moral truth. And so these statistics are much worse than what they were five years ago. And, for our Christian pastors, the statistics, the recent statistics are very alarming as well. 53% believe in reincarnation. 56 don't believe in absolute truth. And 50% of Christian children's pastors who are teaching our children. According to the Barna Statistics and Christian Arizona University, 50% believe that that Jesus actually sinned while he was on earth in his human form. Oh my goodness. So George Barna says we are on the precipice of irreversible destruction. If we don't do something. Absolutely. Those those stats are shocking. And we will we'll put a link to the Barna study in the show notes so people can check those out for themselves. I think you I think you really bring up a good point here because, one of the things that we hear most frequently is, you know, this, this very humanistic worldview and technology mix together is really harming our children. And of course, at Covenant Eyes, we're very concerned about the impacts of technology and inappropriate content reaching children. So let's talk a little bit more about why it's so important to shape that godly worldview, especially at those very young, formative years with our children. Because, frankly, when children are exposed to technology, there are all sorts of messages coming their way, and parents aren't able to stop that because technology just allows all of this right in front of them. And so talk to us about why it's so important that at an early age, we start shaping that worldview. Well, from the womb at 18 weeks of pregnancy, the fetus can hear the sounds. So God's Word says in,

6 teach even the children yet to be born. So from the womb, when they start to hear, the sounds you can sing about Jesus, volunteer at a daycare center, you know, nursery, church, nursery or whatever, and let your fetus hear the sounds of Jesus. This is how you build that foundation. What does Timothy. Daniel? Saul? Paul, what do they all have in common? They were taught from infancy. So whenever you're building a house, let's say you're building a house. You always start with a great foundation. And we want to start with a great foundation. So, later on, the proverbial cracks and crevices of doubt and confusion don't take place. We want our children to believe what they believe not because they were told to, but because they know it to be true. And you start early. If you want a strong foundation, I say we're preparing the soil from the womb to age three. What does that look like? For example, volunteering at the church nursery, or you have a toddler that's getting ready to take a nap instead of saying, let's take a nap, say, let's take a Sabbath rest. Now, they don't understand the true meaning of Sabbath, but what you're doing is you're building a vocabulary and a category in their mind for the term Sabbath. Later on, when you're explaining the meaning of Sabbath between the ages of four and seven, you're planting seeds into rich soil to grow deep roots. All the experts say that children understand more than they can convey, and you should never hold back on any biblical principle, because you never know when they're going to grasp that there's just so much we can do at an early age. Another thing, you have a six month old looking in the mirror and he's giggling at his reflection. You can say, Johnny, Jesus loves you. You are so beautiful. Jesus loves you and so does mommy. What you're doing is you're connecting Johnny's happy emotions with the name of Jesus. There's just so much we can do organically, day by day, lovingly with our children to connect their hearts and minds to Christ. I think that's so important, too. It's those little things every single day over time that are so important. And you talk about those really young, you know, years of 0 to 3. And research has shown that those are very, very important. And the relationships with their parents are super important during that time as they're growing. There's, oxytocin and serotonin, all of these chemicals that also are very important. That's why we have to really invest heavily when our children are young. What is you know, what is, in your opinion, some of the dangers or the things that are happening to our young people that have led us to this place where so many are turning from the faith at such a young age? I mean, it's quite shocking because youth groups and churches are doing more and more, it seems like, to engage young people, but we're seeing the stats. They're shocking to me. That's a loaded question. There are so many things that we could be doing better to raise our children. You know, I really hate when I'm walking through the mall or the grocery store and I see a two year old on an iPad. I taught, I teach my, my biblical parenting course as an elective at South Florida Bible College for Biblical Counseling, and I showed videos to my, students of two year olds and one year olds having total tantrums, meltdowns because mom took the iPhone away or took the tablet away. First of all, it stuns their vocabulary, and so you're training their brain to rely on this technology and not having interaction with your children. That is really bad for your parent child relationship. I think technology, as you said, is a horrible tool that the devil is using. And we can. I talk in my book about how we can use it to help promote Christ and promote His Word. There's everything's created and it can be used for good, or it could be used for evil. Yeah, you're right. And I think parents have a responsibility to take control of how technology is being used in their children's lives. I think one of the things when we're out talking to parent groups or traveling to conferences, you know, oftentimes we get the parents with teenagers who have now been exposed to pornography and they're addicted to their phones. And, you know, they they're like, I can't even get the phone back. And I think that's where we're making the mistake. Technology is a tool we need to teach our children how to use it. And we also probably need to either use a device that's completely locked down, like the phone that you mentioned, get Covenant Eyes installed on different devices, but we also need to prevent access to technology until they're old enough to actually manage that, because so many children are being like you mentioned, you've been exposed to technology yet, you know, one, three, five, seven they do not have the cognitive ability to navigate that. They're just being exposed to all sorts of ideas, worldviews, things that go against what the parents are teaching. So I'm glad that you brought that up. Let's talk a little bit about, maybe parents, you know, and this can be hard because oftentimes, you know, we see the repercussions of, you know, the things that are happening in our culture and parenting techniques. Parents really have a huge responsibility, and it's our job. We're called to train our children and the way to go. So talk to us a little bit about how parents need to take initiative and do a better job in kind of guiding and coaching their children, whether it's, you know, on Scripture or using technology or interacting with other people. Well, we always start with the Word of God.

6 as you just mentioned, train them up in the way they should go and they will not depart from it. But what we have to understand that that is not a guarantee. Proverbs were written by King Solomon to educate his sons to one day be kings, and their wisdom its wisdom.

4-9 is God's mandate and directive and command that parents should really know. And that's to, love the Lord with all your heart, with all your soul. Christ talks about that being the most important Bible verse. He adds the word mind and your mind when he talks about in Matthew. And then after you love the Lord with all your heart, with all your soul, teach it to your children. Impress upon these commands on your children when they rise up, when they walk along the path, when they lie down. So there's so many verses in God's Word that gives directions to parents. In fact, that is also repeated in Deuteronomy chapter 11. The same verse. So it's very important to understand God is saying, when you rise up in the morning, acknowledge God, give thanks to God. Let your children see you doing this in teacher children to do the same. When you walk along the path, that means all day long you're walking on a path everywhere, all day. Look for those opportunities to bring Christ and God into the conversation. And when you lie down, thank him for the blessings that you have that day and the blessings you'll get tomorrow. I say to parents, if you have a five year old and you say, who do you love the most? And they say, Mommy and Daddy, but they don't say Jesus. Also, there's work that needs to be done and there's so much we can do. Set a timer to pray 3 or 4 times a day with your children. We set timers for many things, right a family mission statement, have a disciplinary contract. There's so much that we can do that I include in the book. And by the way, I don't make a penny on this book. All my proceeds are donated. This is my God given mission to equip parents, and I'm trying to be obedient, to the Lord's calling to do this. I'll have parents can't say to me, well, I've, I wrote a family mission statement. We did a disciplinary contract. We did it with the kids. Because kids are more likely to adhere to that if they're involved in the stipulations with it. But I can't get them to still obey and to listen, especially when it's teenagers. I and I say to them, well, here's the thing. You have to understand teenagers don't have kids don't have rights, okay? They have a right to food, clothing, shelter, but the right to a cell phone, a computer or keys to the car. Those are privileges. And when you take those privileges away, you'll see how fast they will turn around to want to be obedient. And and when you're riding that family mission statement, you sit down. You say, we haven't been doing the things that we should be doing. We're going to start doing them. And the three reasons why we're doing it now. And these are three reasons that they cannot push back upon, is because we have to be obedient to the Word of God. He's going to hold us accountable to how we're raising you. We're doing this because we love you, and we're doing this because we want to keep you safe. Those are three reasons that children cannot push back upon. That's some good advice. Then you give it some really practical tips that parents can do. We are big on getting those contracts, especially when it comes to things like technology, having an agreement that, you know, the children don't own the devices, the parents do. And so really I think that's so important for the family and all the different areas. Let's talk a little bit. You have a chapter in your book that's about virtues, and that's kind of a word that feels old fashioned for some reason. People don't talk about that enough anymore. But let's talk about virtues. And would you mind sharing a few of the key virtues that Scripture really teaches us that are important, and how maybe parents can incorporate, you know, teaching our children these virtues and day to day life? Well, we have, a Bible verse that speaks about the best virtues, okay. And that's Galatians love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control those are all virtues. And second, Peter tells us we're to supplement our faith with virtue. So we want our children to be virtuous, because to be virtuous means you're more Christlike. And you can do that with fruits of the spirit puzzles for little ones. They also have biblical Legos that you can buy that are really cute. That's exciting. And I and I always say that make sure their play areas reflect more of Destiny Land and less Disneyland. Have a section where they can play, communion instead of Tea party costumes where they dress up as biblical characters instead of Disney characters and play with your children. Einstein says that play is the highest form of research. So and most importantly, be a virtuous person yourself because more is caught than taught. You need to, walk. Not only talk what you're preaching or talk about what you're preaching, but walk what you're preaching. Let your children see you. Be a virtuous person, a kind, a loving person. Maybe just spend one virtue a day. Focus on that virtue. I talk about virtue stones in my book, and they're really just tools, to, to use to help children understand virtues, because each stone represents a different virtue, like Jasper and Ruby. Now, we're not teaching them that these stones have any powers, but you're you can give the child, I say take stones, white stones. Paint them the color of the the virtue stone that you want to give them. And then give them a little index card that says, Jasper means to be kind and loving that day and help them have them carry the stone around with them to remind them of that virtue that they're to practice that day. There's just so many ways to teach children how to be virtuous. And it starts with the fruit of the spirit. That's perfect. I love that. You know, the thing that's really interesting, too, is that, you mentioned all these different virtues that Scripture gives us, but that we can just pull from. And there's so many ways that parents can engage in these small activities that can engage that, you know, kids have a lot of mirror neurons. And you brought this up like, you know, what we do with more important sometimes than what we say. So that's a heavy call to parents because oftentimes, you know, we have to kind of check ourselves. And look, are we modeling the behaviors and the virtues and, and the things that we're trying to teach our children, because they definitely learn more from what they see than what they hear, especially when they're young and have all those mirror neurons. Can you talk to us a little bit about how you coach? Because you train, you know, you have courses and things that you train parents, how do we get better? Because, you know, we we all have sanctification and room to grow and, you know, so we we're not perfect. So, you know, as parents, how can we get better at showing these things and doing these things ourselves? Well, as with everything, we need to be educated. George Barna in his book, not the last book, but the book before that. I can't remember the title of it. He says. Every respected military strategist, educator, he goes on and on of these very important people. And then he says, our business leader, and then he says, every parent, okay, can only be the best they can be by educating themselves. So I would say, first, read every wonderful parenting book that you can find and educate yourself. First, inform us with the Word of God and then put it into practice daily. Little by little it takes. What is it? It's not 21. It's 63 days, I think, or something like that to, have a habit form. So formulate new habits of how you're going to, to parent your children. Well, there's just so much we can do. And and it's easy. It's not really hard. So don't be overwhelmed. Don't feel guilty if you didn't do it. That's another tool. The devil that keeps us, holds us back from doing what we need to do and just plan. You know what you're going to do. We play for many things vacations we plan for, where kids are going to go to school. We plan for what we're going to eat that week, plan how you're going to raise your children, educate yourself and pray, pray, pray and ask for the Holy Spirit to fill you and give you wisdom and guidance. There's take a parenting class. Biblical Parenting University is phenomenal. I took that, and it really teaches you how to discipline your kids. Well, you can get a lot from that. There's a lot of resources out there. On my website, I have a parenting quiz that you can take, and it's an assessment of four areas of parenting that you can take freely to see maybe where you're weak in some areas or strong in some areas. And so after you take this assessment, you can sit back and really, look at where you need to grow or what you need to do to make yourself better in that one specific area. That's awesome. We'll have our we'll put a link to that. I think that would be a useful tool for a lot of parents, a lot of people like to kind of get a lay of the land and assess where they're at and where they can grow. So you mentioned a little bit about, discipline and you have a chapter in your book that's, I think it's on making obedience easier than discipline. So can you talk to me a little bit about that chapter and why obedience is, you know, the path to take make it easier anyways, I versus the discipline. Well, you don't have to discipline so much if you have an obedient child. So I talk about obedience. What does that look like? How do you help your child being obedient child? And then I talk about the next chapter, disciplining. When they're not obedient. We need to go towards disciplining. And I want to make sure parents understand that. Tell your children that any discipline discipline simply means to educate with wisdom. That's what discipline is. Obedience means to teach our children how to obey the first time when they're told to do something. And I have a lot of ideas in there. For example, a small child, many parents will say, Johnny, put your toys away, Johnny, put your toys away. They keep yelling across the room. Johnny's just playing with his toys. Then they'll come in frustrated. Johnny, I told you to put your toys away so you have to train Johnny how to be obedient. So that means the first time you give a, you ask him to do something. That's a command, not a suggestion. If you keep telling him over and over, it's a suggestion. So you get. I level with Johnny and you say, Johnny, mommy wants you to put your toys away now and have Johnny repeat that command back to you. Tell mommy what I just told you to do, and then you stay there and you make sure Johnny puts his toys away so they have to learn. You know that a command is a command before if you want them to be obedient. It can't be a suggestion. That's really good. I think, you know, and I'm in parenting my two children who are both adults now. But I remember those times where you would repeat something and it it felt wrong. I was like, I'm doing something wrong here, you know? Because if I have to keep saying it, then they're not taking it seriously. So I love how you're talking about the difference here. I think that's helpful for parents. And then some practical tips on how we can do it better. And I think there are there seems to be kind of a, I don't know what I would call it, but people tend to, like, freak out about discipline, you know, in society, like discipline is a bad thing. But discipline and obedience are throughout the Bible. You know, the Lord disciplines us. Obedience to his commands are essential, in our faith walk. So, talk to me a little bit about how society gets that wrong, and maybe how it tricks parents into thinking that discipline is not healthy or good. Yeah, discipline comes from the word disciple. It means to educate, to instruct with wisdom, biblical wisdom. Really. So when your kids do something that they're not obeying, they're being disobedient, okay? They're not obeying. It's disobedient. After you discipline them and educate them. The right thing to do. Now you're talking about consequences. When a child does something wrong, you're not disciplining, you're giving a consequence and might I say it's a consequence they earned. It's not like you're just giving it to them. People say, well, I gave them a consequence. No you didn't. They earned that consequence for their disobedience. They also earn privileges for obedience. So we have to understand the difference between obedience, disobedience and consequences. And then there's natural consequence, causes and consequences. I'll give you a good example of a natural consequence. My niece was told not to jump backwards into the pool. Her mom told her three times, don't do that. She'd stand on the edge of the pool and jump in backwards. Well, the last time she did, it hurt. Her mouth hit the edge of the pool and her teeth were pushed up. Her baby teeth got pushed up into the gums, and so they rushed her to the dentist. And the dentist said, oh, don't worry, they're going to fall back down. Well, thank God they did. Yeah. So there's they have to learn the difference between respect and obey and honor. These are all important, virtues, actually, that children need to learn early and parents cannot be wishy washy. That is a problem. You have to be firm. I'll have parents say, well, she didn't. She's only five years old. I don't want to be. No. This is the time before the age of seven. God says that is seven years is a completion, a number completion. And all the experts say by age seven, your child knows between the difference between right and wrong. They know how to behave and how to dress and how to be disobedient. So that first seven years is crucial and critical. You lovingly guide them. You lovingly discipline them. You use words of affirmation. You don't speak negatively. And I'll give you an example of this. Instead of saying to your child, if you don't put your jammies on, we're not going to have time for a bedtime story. You can lovingly say, hurry up, put your jammies on so we'll have time for a bedtime story. Children react positive way better than they do negative. And I also say use this the yes sandwich for little ones. What is a yes sandwich? Well, you say you have a newborn little one you have to feed and you have to put down for nap. But your two year old I want to go to the park. I want to go to the park now. Mom. Well, instead of saying, no, we can't go to the park, I have to feed the baby because then your child's going to resent their sibling and cause sibling rivalry. You say, okay, Tommy, yes, we're going to go to the park as soon as after the nap, after the baby takes a nap, we're going to go to the park. Yes we are, and you're going to be able to to decide whether you want to go on the teeter totter or the slide. Now all they heard was yes, yes, yes. So that's the yes sandwich. So I always encourage parents, everything you do, every interaction you have with your child, try to turn it into a positive action or reinforcement, of biblical principles in a positive way. Absolutely. And then follow through with what you have done as well as a parent, because often times, you know, I've seen parents, you know, make those, you know, but then something happens and you have to change plans and you don't follow through. And kids pick up on that as well. So definitely important to make sure you follow through that to the best of your ability. I mean, life does happen, but, teaching them to be resilient in those circumstances is important. But try to be a person of your word. You know, you talked about consequences. And I think, you know, I see a lot of parents nowadays trying to shelter kids from consequences for, you know, decisions that they're making. Talk to me a little bit about how that's dangerous. And it does not help them grow, you know, spiritually because it teaches them probably some think that, you know, that they don't need to be learning. I did this, and I wish I didn't do this. And I'll give you an example. My son got a ticket when he was 16 and my husband said, oh no, we don't want our insurance to go up, you know, let's make sure blah blah, blah, blah, blah. Take care of the ticket, you know, hire the attorney, get them so we don't get the points. And we tell them, look, don't do that again. You can't do that again. And then he got another ticket and we did the same thing. And but guess what? He didn't learn to stop speeding. So consequences are some of the best tools to discipline a child and natural consequences of things that happen naturally. Well, look, okay, you're going to lose your license. That's going to teach him a lesson. And I love with what, Diane and Phil Comer say in their book, they say if you think something's not real important, that you don't want to address it, or that you give them a pass on it, think about what it's going to look like ten years down the road when they're teenagers and you do that well, it could be so much worse. That's a really good way to look at it. I think that's wise. We'll talk to us a little bit about some of the resources that you have on your website, and some of the tools and things that parents can expect if they they visit you. Thank you, I appreciate that. So I want to let everybody know that anything that they purchase on my website, whether it be the kids products or our Scripture bear, we have our oh, he's in a plastic here. I'll know if you can see the scripture. There is a Bible verses and a sweet child's voice. I have parents say, oh my two year old learned eight Bible verses already. Oh, so any any proceeds I have, we donate to the nonprofit Raising Christian Raising Christian Kids nonprofit, which buys products to give to families that can't afford to buy Christian products. Did you know that Pew Research has indicated that 66% of Christian families make less than $30,000 a year? Wow. They can barely afford food, shelter, and clothing, let alone a Bible, a devotional, a parenting book, a child's Christian book, or or a teddy bear. So we donated 750 of these bears also. Goodness. So my husband and I, this is a mission for us, but on my website you can access, I think, 26 free printable resources. You can also access tips from the experts. One of. I'll give you an example. One expert is Edward Graham, which is Billy Graham's grandson, and he talks about parents not feeling guilty because there's no such thing as a perfect parent. I would say we're parenting practitioners. Like, never a perfect parent, you're always practicing like lawyers are practicing lawyers. So, you know, they're never perfect at the law. But anyway, also, he talks about leaving a legacy. So who's better than Edward? Billy Graham's grandson, to talk about how to leave a legacy so they can access these tips from the experts. We have the parenting assessment quiz. So there's four areas of parenting. That you can take this quiz to see those where you're weak. In some of those areas, we have recommended resources, which, by the way, we have a link for True Me phone, which I think is going to save our children, and also Answers in Genesis. We have series. Where we have that, a link to their curriculum. I think hands down, they have the best curriculum, for, for parents, for schools and for homeschooling. Yup. So we have a lot of resources there. That's awesome. We'll have focus on the family online resources. We're getting ready to put that up there. I don't know if it's up there yet. I will check RaisingChristianKids.com. We always have something we're sharing. It's it's all about supporting the parents, grandparents, ministry leaders, anyone raised in this next generation. That's amazing. Well let's talk a little bit about your see kids TV series. Talk to us. What was the inspiration behind that and what what is it all about? Like what can we expect in that? Okay, so a long time ago here and I wrote, I wrote a story to my for my children because I could not find how to teach them how to live out the biblical principles. I was trying to teach them in real life situations they faced. I found books about Bible stories, fruits of the spirit. So I wrote a few of these stories and then I shelved them all. God had other plans, asked forward. I have seven kids books that teach children how to live out the biblical principles we're trying to instill in them in real life situations. And these books, they pray to Jesus, they give thanks to Jesus. There's also, a hidden Christian symbol on each page, like a Where's Waldo for the kids to find. So they're it's a lot of fun. Now, the books were also made into an animation series. There's 26 episodes that if you have Right Now Media, Pure Flix, Answers TV, Minnow and Yippee! You have access to all 26 animated episodes. Wow. And we have, products. We have a workbook that covers all seven books and all 26 animated episodes so you can homeschool your children with these products as well. A lot of parents are use using parents, and teachers are using this in supplement to their biblical curriculum. This is an apologetic type curriculum for little ones. Oh, I love that. Wow, that's amazing that you put those stories together. And all those years later, God found a way to use it in such a powerful medium because you know, TV and animated series, that's that's powerful. I mean, kids love that. So that's exciting. Well, we'll definitely put links to all of these different resources in the show notes. I think this is fantastic, Lee Ann, thank you so much for answering the call that you know, Christ had on your life to serve parents in this way. I think it's so needed in a world that is just spinning with messages that are not biblical, and our kids are up against so much, and technology delivers so many false truths to them on a day to day basis that as parents, we have to stand in between that and we have to train and equip them. So thank you so much for your ministry and all the work that you're doing. Thank you. And if they purchase the book, reach out to me. I'll send you the bonus chapter for free. And I'm also working on a six week biblical parenting course that parents can do at home or in the church. And in the back of my book, there's 312 Bible verse references and questions for each chapter so parents can have, you know, Bible study it, a book club or Bible study, how I'm using my book. Oh that's awesome. Yeah, I did see that at the end of the book that there's these questions. It's great for couples to do together and and even to bring that to your moms groups or your small groups, I love that. Well, this is great. Thank you. This is an exciting resource. The book is fantastic. All of the other assets that you have on your website are going to be so helpful to our parents out there. Parents, definitely check it out. The links will all be in the show notes. And Lee Ann, thanks again for joining us on The Covenant Eyes Podcast. We really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure. All right. We'll take care. And to all of our listeners, we'll see you again on The Covenant Eyes Podcast. Take care. God bless.